My 14 yr. old daughter had surgery Oct. 19th '05 with Dr. Waner in NY for her lower lip AVM. She is doing good, Dr. Waner feels he got it all, if so it would be a cure. We are very happy with the outcome & can email you pictures. You can email me at azblt@aol.com for more info. I'm not on my home computer @ the moment. Linda T.